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March 13, 2007

Coach K's Duke, Then And Now

This is another guest article from William Loeffler. Previously, he took a look at the most important game in ACC basketball history. This time he takes a look at Mike Krzyzewski's career at Duke.

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A Comparison Between the Duke Teams of pre-1996 and post-1996.

Dave has linked to an Al Featherston article that touches on a sociological aspect of Duke's success, that not only is overlooked, but that is actually often thought to be the reverse of the truth. Because Duke is such a prestigious school, with an elite student body, many of whom come from well-to-do backgrounds, people assume the same about Duke's white players and its coach.

As Featherston says, this is far from the truth. Mike Krzyzewski comes from a working-class background, out of the Polish neighborhoods of Chicago, with the accent to boot. Some of his players have been the children of NBAer's (or NFL'ers) like Dunleavy, Ferry, Collins or Hill, but many, such as Bilas and Laettner were tough-nosed kids who grew up far away from privilege.

During the first part of Krzyzewski's career, there seemed to be even a greater contrast between the Duke and Carolina teams. Dean Smith, the son of schoolteachers, had an efficient, aristocratic program that was fueled by Class A talent, but often was perceived to be playing without either joy or emotion.

From the very beginning, Mike Krzyzewski seemed unafraid to tweak the ACC powers to be, noting upon being hired and asked about competing with Smith, that the ACC had many fine coaches to contend with, rather than kissing the ring of the Carolina coach. His mannerisms on the sideline were certainly unusual for a conference located south of the Mason-Dixon. There had always been fiery coaches like Driesell and McGuire, but no one had ever seemed quite so indulgent in using the 7 words that you can't say on television, as K.

K was smart, tough and somewhat crude and so were his teams, in a good way, if you will. Particularly in K's pre-1992 teams, Duke was often an overachieving bunch of scrappers, talented yes but not incredibly so, but more driven to win, as opposed to the more elite, incredibly-talented Duke teams post-1996 which generally have stared down at opponents from the established hill of greatness.

In the 1980's Duke's defensive play was so intense and some said, physical, that many teams across the country simply seemed overwhelmed in the NCAA tournament, as they did not have the benefit of seeing Duke multiple times and preparing the way that teams in the ACC did.

Fred Barakat, the former ACC chief of officials, noted that there was a change in what was allowed on defense and felt that this change aided the ACC in winning titles in the 1990's and 2000's. They style change coordinated well with Duke's aggressive, in your face defense.

"When I came in, the ACC had the reputation that this league was a touch-foul call league," Barakat said. "There were so many whistles and so much free throw shooting that when they got out into intersectional play, that physical play ... that was a huge adjustment.
"I came in with the advantage-disadvantage concept. It had always been out there, but it became a major emphasis for us. I wanted to change the idea of rule-istic or legalistic - a strict interpretation of the rules - to a more realistic approach, spirit and intent, advantage-disadvantage. So contact, of what there is so much of, is not necessarily a foul unless the contact leads to an advantage.

"That's a whole new concept for our fans to buy. That first year or two, we were going booed off the court on no-calls. My job was to teach the referees how to suck on the whistle instead of blow on the whistle. That was a hard adjustment."

Carolina was the aristocratic team of these times, talent-laden and usually at the top of the league, but prone to either bad luck or lapses in the post-season, depending on your point of view. Carolina was ranked number one in the nation several different seasons and had two 14-0 seasons in the ACC, after their championship win against Georgetown in 1982, but were never able to make it back to the Final Four during the rest of the decade. Although excellent on both ends of the court, Carolina seemed somewhat lackadaisical on defense when compared to the snarling Blue Devils.

Duke, by contrast, probably only had one great talent-laden team during the 1980's, the team with Dawkins, Amaker, Bilas, Alarie and Henderson and that team fell just short in 1986, losing against Louisville in the championship game.

But in terms of coaching achievement, the final years of the 1980's were some of K's best work, in terms of beating expectations. For instance, the 1988, 1989, and 1990 Blue Devils all made the Final Four without finishing first in the ACC regular season standings and never receiving a number 1 seed. Indeed, Duke finished a somewhat mediocre 9-5 in conference(by their current standards) all three seasons and yet still made it to the Final Four all three years.

In 1991, Duke had added Grant Hill, perhaps their first truly great athlete, and managed to finish first in the conference, but got annihilated by UNC in the ACC tourney by 25 points. This cost Duke the number one seed, and yet, still managed to make it to the Final Four and win their first title, with the mediocre record (for a champion, only, of course) of 32-7.

That made it four straight Final Four's for Duke, and in none of these four seasons was Duke a number 1 seed in the NCAA tourney. In both 1989 and 1991, Carolina beat Duke in the ACC tournament final and Duke still went farther than Carolina in the post-season each year.

Often, it is difficult to extract the portion of "luck" from any team's or coach's performance, but Krzyzewski's performance as a coach from 1986-1991 seemed to lead the Blue Devils consistently to post-season success far greater than their regular season performance had implied. In 1992, Duke held serve.

In 1994, Duke again surprised. Although the Blue Devils had finished first in the regular season by one game over UNC, UNC was defending champ and had added Rasheed Wallace, Jerry Stackhouse and Jeff McInnis to its stable, and appeared to be ready for a repeat in Charlotte after winning the ACC tourney, garnering the number 1 seed.

Duke got a number 2 seed and to the chagrin of many North Carolinians, Duke ended up playing Arkansas in the title game in Charlotte, coming within a whisker of winning a game, they seemed to have in hand.

Since 1997, Krzyzewski's performance has lagged in the other direction, with Duke almost always receiving number 1 seeds in the NCAA tournament, in 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, and 2006, and yet making only 3 Final Fours and winning only 1 NCAA tourney during those years.

Was Krzyzewski a better coach early in his career, with those scrappy blue collar teams that helped elevate the Duke program to parity with UNC and Kentucky, or was he simply the recipient of a few more good bounces during those years?

It is hard to deny than he would later suffer some excruciatingly close defeats in championship games to Arkansas in 1994, and to UConn in 1999 by his 37-1 Blue Devils--arguably his best team ever. Then there were the NCAA losses to Kentucky, Indiana and UConn in games in which he had big leads and to Michigan State and Louisiana State, in games in which Duke lost to clearly weaker teams.

Was it just bad luck or did Krzyzewski have a coaching style most well suited to working with underdogs? Certainly, his third title team, while talented, did less well in the ACC than had the prior 3 Duke teams and struggled mightily to defeat Maryland in both the ACC title game and the Final Four. Coming back from more than 20 points in the Semi-finals, and then fighting past Arizona for the title, the 2001 team seem to have more of the blue-collar ethic that Duke had been known for in the past.

And so my answer to the question as to whether K has had more bad luck at the end of his career, or whether he was an even better coach early on, is maybe a little bit of both. Like anyone, K might have been hungrier when he was starting out, but if Laettner had not hit two sensational last second shots in 1990 and 1992, Duke would have been to two fewer Final Fours and would have won one fewer championship.

Looking at this year, Krzyzewski might have a chance to return to his roots. The 2007 Blue Devils are a gritty, defensive-oriented team, that can really clamp down on the opposition when they are playing their game. While the Blue Devils lost several games to ACC teams more acclimated to their schemes, Duke had excellent success against teams from outside the ACC, stifling the number one rated offensive team in the country, Georgetown, as well as Indiana, another top offensive team. Duke seemed to have the greatest trouble with teams that excelled on the defensive end, losing all four games against Maryland and UNC, two teams which are its equal on defense.

Neither VCU nor Pittsburgh is an especially impressive defensive team. If Duke can deal with any possible internal issues it might have, the Blue Devils might be poised to surprise and go deeper in the tournament than many of their naysayers believe.

Comments
 
(1) by SuperJew on 03/14/2007 01:03 am
Great article. However, I have one teeny-tiny gripe:

About the nonconfrence schedule, I think its safe to say that (at least) Georgetown and (maybe) Indiana could give the Blue Devils a run for their money this time around. I'm positive that the Georgetown that was in Cameron Indoor Stadium is absolutely nothing like the Georgetown that has been on a winning tear since midway through confrence schedule. While I'm not suggesting that Duke hasn't improved (just see how well Paulus is shooting the ball), I'm hesitant to say that they've had excellent success against teams from outside the ACC. (This is when playing at CIS also adds 4-5 points towards the Blue Devils. It's a significant homecourt advantage.)

Other than that teeny gripe, it was a super article.

 
(2) by orzelc on 03/14/2007 10:01 am
It is hard to deny than he would later suffer some excruciatingly close defeats in championship games to Arkansas in 1994, and to UConn in 1999 by his 37-1 Blue Devils--arguably his best team ever. Then there were the NCAA losses to Kentucky, Indiana and UConn in games in which he had big leads and to Michigan State and Louisiana State, in games in which Duke lost to clearly weaker teams.

I didn't find those all that surprising. It's a question of match-ups-- Krzyzewski has a fanatical devotion to man-to-man defense, and tends to recruit teams that are heavy on small forwards. They're consistently vulnerable in the paint, particularly to teams that can play a physical post game.

My rule of thumb regarding Duke in the NCAA's for the last ten years or so has been to pick them to lose to a good team from the Big East or Big Ten. Those leagues tend to involve a lot of banging in the post, and if they have guards who can deal with hand-checking and moving screens, they can dominate Duke in the lane.

The same has been true of a lot of their ACC losses as well. There was a great graphic put up in the Maryland game: at one point when it was close, Duke had scored something like 75% of their points from three-point range, and Maryland had something like 75% of their points in the paint. That's been the pattern for Duke-Maryland games in the past several years-- Maryland wins when they manage to take the game into the lane, either by deliberately pounding it into the post players, or (as in this year's game) by taking perimeter players off the dribble and getting into the lane that way.

I don't think there's been a real shift in the way Krzyzewski's teams play-- Laettner and Ferry weren't exactly classic back-to-the-basket centers-- but I think the style of play nationwide has changed a little bit. The clutch-and-grab defense that Duke is known for has become the rule, rather than the exception, and it doesn't really surprise people any more, in the ACC or out.

(The Big East is sort of a weird case, in terms of style of play. They've always allowed ridiculously rough play in the lane, but they call it weirdly close out on the perimeter. There are lots of touch fouls whistled out on the wing in the Big East that wouldn't get a second glance in an ACC game. They've gotten better recently, but I think this really hurt the league in the early 90's.)

 
(3) by william on 03/14/2007 12:33 pm
That is a good point about the three point shooting. I would have to go back and focus on a couple of Duke's games from the early 1990's and late 1980's to see if they were as dependent on the three pointer back then. My recollection is that the three pointer entered the college game somewhat gradually. I have recently watched the UNC-Michigan title game in 1993 and was struck by how the 3-pointer was more of an occasional option, rather than a major thrust as it is now for many teams.

I believe that Kentucky's success in the mid-1990's with the three pointer inspired many other teams to shoot more and Duke seemed to begin using it much more during the Trajan Langdon years. I think that the three-pointer can almost be used reflexively in a lazy manner when a team is in trouble and at times Duke does seem to rely on it too much. I felt the same about the 2005 Illini, but one assumes that their coaches are weighing all these matters.

The point about Duke's defense being more commonplace, may be right, but I still think that it can be upsetting to team's that have not confronted before when Duke is on its game. North Carolina's freshmen seemed taken aback by the Duke defensive intensity in its first game with Duke at Cameron.

One of my favorite quotes when looking at some sources on Duke basketball, involved former Wake Forest coach Bob Staak. When asked what he thought as a new ACC coach of Duke's defensive scheme, Staak remarked, "Oh yeah, Duke plays great F'ing defense. Five guys fouling all the time." Maybe, but history is written by the victors, no?

 
(4) by Dave on 03/14/2007 12:59 pm
Funny you should mention those Kentucky teams. In my opinion, those teams fouled more than any teams I can remember. They pressed the whole game and constantly had their hands on the offense. Constantly. Of course, you can't call everything and refs tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the more aggressive and talented team.

Arkansas' 40 Minutes of Hell defense was similar.

FWIW, I don't think Duke handchecks quite as much as they used to. This is probably because they haven't had good perimeter quickness in recent years and without that it's hard to pressure outside too much.

 
(5) by orzelc on 03/14/2007 02:21 pm
[quote="william"]That is a good point about the three point shooting. I would have to go back and focus on a couple of Duke's games from the early 1990's and late 1980's to see if they were as dependent on the three pointer back then. My recollection is that the three pointer entered the college game somewhat gradually. [\quote]

Yes and no.
In some respects, it caught on very quickly-- Rick Pitino's reputation was first made by taking Providence to the Final Four in 1987, which had a lot to do with three-point shooting. But initially, it was mostly a way for lower-echelon teams to hang with the power teams (I recall Vanderbilt winning a game against Pitt (in the Jerome Lane era) on a four-point play in the late 80's, for example). You still see this a lot-- small conference teams chuck up a lot more threes than even the most trigger-happy ACC teams.

It started to become a primary threat with the success of UNLV and Loyola Marymount in the early 90's, and really took off when they shortened the shot clock. The chuck-and-duck game was well established before Pitino's really great teams got going.

 
(6) by orzelc on 03/14/2007 02:25 pm
Funny you should mention those Kentucky teams. In my opinion, those teams fouled more than any teams I can remember. They pressed the whole game and constantly had their hands on the offense. Constantly. Of course, you can't call everything and refs tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the more aggressive and talented team.

I grew up in Big East country, so my mental exemplars of this sort of thing are the Georgetown teams of the mid 80's. They fouled constantly, but they also had nine nearly identical guard/forward types on the team, so when one got in foul trouble, they'd just send another one in. The refs usually ended up letting a lot more go by the end of the game, just to have some flow to the action.

 
(7) by william on 03/14/2007 03:35 pm
I remember in particular the game in 1989 in the NCAA East Regional, where the second-seeded Blue Devils took down the top seed Georgetown Hoyas, 85-77 and being particularly impressed at the way Duke and its new star Laettner took down the then-hated Hoyas.(Now it seems more like Stalin versus Hitler). Duke's intensity was exceptional and I remember thinking that Carolina could never have taken apart Georgetown the way that Duke had.

 
(8) by Dave on 03/14/2007 03:50 pm
orzelc wrote:
Funny you should mention those Kentucky teams. In my opinion, those teams fouled more than any teams I can remember. They pressed the whole game and constantly had their hands on the offense. Constantly. Of course, you can't call everything and refs tend to give the benefit of the doubt to the more aggressive and talented team.

I grew up in Big East country, so my mental exemplars of this sort of thing are the Georgetown teams of the mid 80's. They fouled constantly, but they also had nine nearly identical guard/forward types on the team, so when one got in foul trouble, they'd just send another one in. The refs usually ended up letting a lot more go by the end of the game, just to have some flow to the action.


Well yeah, those Georgetown teams were extremely physical, inside and out. There wasn't a three-point shot in those days, so the Hoyas mostly packed it in and dared you to bring it inside. Remember, they used to get in fights about every other game too.

 
(9) by orzelc on 03/14/2007 03:57 pm
Amusingly, I've been listening to Dan Patrick on ESPN radio for the last couple of hours, and he just spent half an hour talking about those same Georgetown teams. As he noted, the best of them were really intimidating, in a way that you don't see all that often.

 
(10) by Dave on 03/14/2007 04:54 pm
orzelc wrote:
Amusingly, I've been listening to Dan Patrick on ESPN radio for the last couple of hours, and he just spent half an hour talking about those same Georgetown teams. As he noted, the best of them were really intimidating, in a way that you don't see all that often.


Absolutely. They had a physical menace that you just don't see. Remember "The Hatchet?" That dude was scary. What was his name? Something Graham.

 
(11) by Fats Durston (unregistered) on 03/14/2007 05:31 pm
I have only the faintest recollection of seeing "Sleepy" Floyd play in High School (Worthy, too) when I was a kid. He wasn't scary.

 
(12) Georgetown by Ed-Hoo on 03/14/2007 06:31 pm
That was Michael Graham, who neglected his studies and ended up transferring to UDC. He was one intimidating young man, but doesn't look so threatening here...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/kingdome/art/archive/400FinalFour.jpg

 
(13) by orzelc on 03/14/2007 08:07 pm
That was Michael Graham, who neglected his studies and ended up transferring to UDC. He was one intimidating young man,

Wasn't he the one who was 25, and had done a tour in the military? Or am I thinking of another of the interchangable Hoya goons.

 
(14) by william on 03/14/2007 08:37 pm
I was thinking about this the other day. It is probably hard for people who started watching basketball in the 1990's to know just what a big deal Georgetown was in the 1980's.

Not only were they excellent throughout the decade, they featured a black coach and almost entirely a black roster, during a period where Carolina and Duke still usually featured a white starter or two.

Some accused John Thompson of rascism against whites, a charge that later died down. It probably was no more than ease of recruiting in certain venues, mixed with a little knowledge of the national pride that many African-Americans took in Georgetown's success. The Hoyas were the pride of the Big East, a built for basketball conference with teams from the largest markets in the country, which achieved a feat that not even the ACC has ever matched: 3 teams in the Final Four in the same year.

Hoya paranoia was certainly a national phenomenon among hoops fans in the 1980's.

Spike Lee wore Georgetown apparel and he talked about how the Hoyas were a national phenomenon, but especially among blacks. Brent Musburger scared the masses into thinking that John Thompson was more dangerous than the Red menace.

First with Patrick Ewing, and then with Alonzo Mourning and in its last gasps with Allen Iverson, Thompson coached controversial players whose excellence was only rivaled by the disparity in which they were either loved or hated by fans across the nation. Fans in the Big East debated whether "Ewing can't read," while later trickled down to Duke's "J.R. can't Reid," and Coach Thompson and Coach Smith rebutting these allegations by affirming that both Ewing and Reid could, indeed, read.

Let's put it this way. If you want to knowthe national perception of Georgetown and how things have chanced, back in 1989, in that East Regional game, Christian Laettner was the good guy, while Mourning and his teammates were definitely the outlaws wearing black.

John Thompson can about as close as humanly possible to winning three NCAA titles in four years, while settling for only one. Had he gotten all three, he would have ended up in the stratosphere of college coaching.


John Thompson's son has taken over the Georgetown program and although he seems to be getting equally good results to those of his father, the team certainly is not regarded the same way. Schooled at Princeton and raised in a different generation, the younger Thompson fails to rankle the way his father did. Georgetown today, is viewed in a very similar manner to Duke. It is a great school with students from similar backgrounds which also plays great basketball. Many of us find ourselves liking the Hoyas and rooting for them. I certainly like the younger Thompson and follow his career.

But in spite of this, it just isn't the same as the pure delight of rooting against Georgetown back in the 1980's. Duke needs another school to help it bear the weight of being both the most popular and less popular team at the same time. Georgetown has the prior experience.

I say, bring back Hoya Paranoia!

 
(15) Re: Georgetown by Dave on 03/14/2007 10:05 pm
Ed-Hoo wrote:
That was Michael Graham, who neglected his studies and ended up transferring to UDC. He was one intimidating young man, but doesn't look so threatening here...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/kingdome/art/archive/400FinalFour.jpg



No, but he was quite the badass at the time. Remember, back then nobody was bald. Nobody.

 
(16) by william on 03/14/2007 10:40 pm
I remember watching that game in the dorm and we called Graham "chemo," a not very nice nickname which was is response to just how different the shaved look was back then. 5 years later, Michael Jordan would lose most of his hair and everyone started shaving their heads.

 
(17) by Ed-Hoo on 03/15/2007 06:11 am
Orzelc,

You are thinking of a different player. Interestingly enough, he was the good citizen of the team as I remember... I'll try to track him down this afternoon after I've finished teaching the joys of drama to sixth graders...

Dave, on the money as usual.

 
(18) Georgetown by Ed-Hoo on 03/17/2007 11:15 am
Sorry for the delay, but episodes 4-6 of "Sopranos, Season 6" seemed more important than Georgetown trivia...

But, if you look at the recruiting info from those teams, Clifton Dairsow is listed as coming from the U. S. Army. Later!

 
(19) by william on 03/17/2007 04:41 pm
When is the final season starting?

 
(20) Sopranos by Ed-Hoo on 03/18/2007 02:19 pm
Easter Sunday... You're a bright guy--I'll let you consider the irony/popular culture connotations...

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/

2 left, UVa down by 6... getting tense

 
(21) Sopranos by william on 03/18/2007 04:53 pm
I just can't believe that they are really going to end it. First 6 Feet Under and now the Sopranos. All I have left is Entourage and that's only a half hour.

 
(22) Sopranos by Ed-Hoo on 03/18/2007 05:26 pm
Advice that many pro athletes should take--go out on top, no shark jumping allowed.

I don't get HBO, so I watch the DVDs. I'm up through episode 6 in season 6.

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